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By Ethan Nahté Armed Forces Day occurred last Saturday. Memorial Day Weekend, as well as the day itself is happening May 29. Active military, as well as veterans and those who paid the ultimate price for our freedoms are on the minds of many if not most of the United States population. Many in this
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done and things need to be delivered. how?— done and things need to be delivered. how? ., , ' ., , delivered. how? the last 12 months with covid has _ delivered. how? the last 12 months with covid has shown _ delivered. how? the last 12 months with covid has shown that _ delivered. how? the last 12 months i with covid has shown that when there is a strong desire and a need for the police to respond we can do it. the biggest step that's been missing is that strong leadership. martin do has been very vocal and positive but for me it's about making sure that strong leadership is followed up. the biggest thing i think is missing is we often deliver national strategies but foreign —— but 43 individual leaders, it's difficult to get them all to understand the issues. and to make sure it is rolled out consistently. we need to make sure there is accountability in every part of the system. at a local force level it needs to come in the strategic chief officer level and in those middle manager and chief inspector level and there needs to
more u.s. combat deaths. as somebody who commanded the mission in afghanistan for several years, what happens now? what happens next from here? >> well, just let's start by putting it in perspective, hallie. the four years i was supreme allied commander of nato -- of course this is a nato mission, we lost about 1700 troops in action, about a third from european nations. so the good news here is that the number of casualties has gone down significantly because we've reduced our force level. when i commanded the mission, we had 150,000 troops in country. we're now down to about 14,000. so we're making progress and stepping back from this thing. what happens next is a negotiated end. that's what happens with insurgencies typically. what we want to avoid is setting artificial deadlines for a complete withdrawal. that's what i'm concerned about
doing enhancing force criminal code, a person protection. so think about it, they could be convicted of treason faces building up walls, doing things to enhance the security of u.s. anywhere between five years in forces there in the region. prison to the death penalty, a potential $10,000 fine, and there's also going to be a fighter squadron that goes in. something that, again, there is would be disqualified from already in the region. holding public office. you know, one thing we need to back in the 1950s, julius and remember when we're talking about this force level in ethel rosenberg passed atomic centcom, any time there's bomb secrets to the soviets. between 60,000 to 80,000 u.s. they were convicted on espionage troops that are assigned to the charges and were executed in 1953. this charge is important because central command region. they were not convicted of when talking of fewer than 1,000 treason because treason is only troops, it's a relatively small aid to an enemy, and though they percentage increase. what we're hearing, though, is this is really supplementing the earlier increases that we saw, were an adversary, the soviet union was not considered an enemy. in this century, john walker the lincoln carrier strike group, the bomber task force lindh joined the taliban in that went a couple of weeks ago. early 2001. he was captured and convicted of this is about helping to protect the forces that are already there, including those additional assets that went in. providing material support to >> so i guess -- the interesting terror groups among other charges. he served 17 years before his part is that there aren't very many people who are talking release just on thursday. but he, too, was not convicted about any threat of a conventional war between iran of treason partially due to the and the united states. burden of proof in proving such there's a lot of talk about a charge. joining me now is nbc news's iranian proxies in the
those things, which afghanistan needs at a force level of 9,800 than it would be if we wound down faster. so that's one of the reasons. >> i do need to go. see the defense minister on the republic of korea if anybody wants to join us. >> on the drawdown plan, we're hearing it's not a calendar-based plan. but it sounds like it's a plan. i'm wondering if the commander at the time at the end of 2016 says we don't want to go down to 5,500, how big of a lift would it be to reassess that and let the 9,800 stay?
level of 9,800, then it would be if we wound down faster. that's one of the reasons. gordon, one for gordon just for old-time's sake since we were on an airplane last week. i do need to go see the defense minister of the republic of south korea if anybody wants to join us. >> on the drawdown plan, we're hearing it's not a calendar-bised plan on the 5,500 at the end of 2016. but it sounds like it is a counter-based plan. so i'm wondering, if the commander at the time at the end of 2016 says, we don't want to go down to 5,500, how big of a lift would it be to reassess that and let the 9,800 stay? >> i can't say that. it's a long time from now, a
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it down in law enforcement terms the aggressor or your subject and the officer. civilian terms the aggressor and the defender. okay. what you do is you look at the various levels of options available to that individual taking into consideration a wide variety of topics ranging from personal information, subject factors like their age, height, weight, things like that. moving through background training, experience, weapon availability, environment considerations. all these things come into a force continuum, which is a structured way of saying if i were to do "a," you would be permitted to do "b." and it's a structured system that allows to evaluate where the one person is on a force level in comparison to where the other person is permitted to be or what they really term to be accepted to be at. >> and is that information that you both learned as a law