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Recently to shut down the government over border wall funding, at least for now. what do you think has prompted this change in tune from the president? >> well, i think -- i'm not sure he realizes it but at least the people around him realize that nobody in the united states congress cares about the wall as much as he does. and you have members of the republican party all along the border who don't want the wall. so this is all about donald trump's personal standing with his base and i think he's realizing that to go to war over that when we're talking about possibly shutting down the governme...

To this type of rhetoric, but there are other people who look at the situation and say, okay, maybe other presidents haven't talked this way but other presidents haven't resolved the situation with north korea the way the obama or bush administration handled it, maybe delivering threats privately, backing off, not giving the north korea the attention they wanted. but john mccain said, you can't use that language if you don't have a plan to back it up when you're talking about a foe like north korea. >> and if you don't back it up, what have you done? you've become barack obama and you've put d...

Differently, but i decided not to push it any further. the term honest loyalty had helped end a very awkward conversation." this is something that to paul ryan and others say it was inappropriate to demand loyalty from his independent fbi direct yorks but is it impeachable? there's inappropriate. there's the new guy, the renegade, outsider in the white house, maybe doesn't know how things work, and then there's something more sinister. >> right. well, you have to take this as a complete picture, christine. all of these episodes that comey describes in his sworn testimony are very important on ...

The pressure is off, the investigation is over. >> in the law you would say it's prima fascia evidence. how mueller handles this. it now puts if play a second pillar of this investigation. the first, obviously, is collusion with the russians but on this obstruction issue, you know, the only target there is the president. and there's really no role for a prosecutor to go after the president. that really has to be turned over to congress, for congress to handle. >> and, bob, talk about the backing off of donald trump. it's been slight. but what are you seeing? what are you hearing on the hill? >...

In that. so i think it's getting hotter with no real clear plan. as you know, you can take different actions. if you don't take action now, you have a lot of north korea lives off extortion, off extortion from its neighbors. if there is a military strike of the kind we saw in syria, you put at risk hundreds of thousands of people in south korea and possibly japan. so there's no good answer. >> i don't see north korea backing off a bit. they have this whole sort of pride thing that this is -- i don't see them backing off. >> it's more than pride. >> i'm not saying it in a good way. not as a goo...