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Supreme court? i think the growing impression over and over is that he was not completely forth right in his testimony. >> peter baker, as you cover this president, i know it is not lost on you that every so often this white house follows the book of presidential behavior. for all the times they don't, and one of the things that presidents do or avoid is opening the door to a plan b, a backup choice for a big nomination, a big job. the president avoided that today. he continued to support his guy tonight at the rally in tennessee. behind the scenes we all know there is a white board and there ...

I think the growing impression over and over is that he was not completely forthright in his testimony. >> peter baker, as you cover this president, i know it is not lost on you that every so often this white house follows the book of presidential behavior. for all the times they don't, and one of the things that presidents do or avoid is opening the door to a plan b, a backup choice for a big nomination, a big job. the president avoided that today. he continued to support his guy tonight at the rally in tennessee. behind the scenes we all know there is a white board and there are backup names...

And one of the things that presidents do or avoid is opening the door to a plan b, a backup choice for a big nomination, a big job. the president avoided that today. he continued to support his guy tonight at the rally in tennessee. behind the scenes we all know there is a white board and there are backup names. there always are during this kind of selection process. so talk to me about the degree of confidence you are sensing in your contacts with those in the west wing. >> he did, in fact, avoid the trap door of acknowledging that he has a plan b. that would be devastating to his current nom...

That with respect to trump and cruz? >> second choice is a question that we always turn to because anything can happen, anything can change. kind of knowing what the backup choice is there. so many things in this poll show ted cruz and donald trump being kind of shadow images of each other. they have many of the same characteristics it is hard to separate them. there is not parody when it comes to second choice. 47% of trump supporters would vote for cruz as second choice. it is only 25% of donald trump supporters would -- of cruz supporters would vote for donald trump. >> so we are getting to...

To the young. this whole experience question is in a sense i think irrelevant. he's not running against barack obama, he's running against other republicans. he's going to win against hillary clinton who would win an experience argument hands-down. but she's framing the debate in a different way. her question is who stands up for the middle class. who stands up for everyday americans. this is a guy, as you point out who's against the minimum wage. he has a tax plan that massively redistributes wealth to the people at the top. he's the backup choice if jeb bush fails and if richard gets his way...