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Literally being extorted for their own data at town hall. so this is part of what's driving, in addition to the mueller report findings and the fact that the russians did this in 2016 and waved at us and said, we can get into your town hall voter registration, we now have a realtime problem where towns are being held hostage. this is where the federal government needs to step in, and they are, at least now, and they're saying, you need backup systems, standalone systems, constantly backing up, making the backup database secure, so that if it goes down you've got a backup system. that costs mon...

Constantly backing up, making the backup database secure, so that if it goes down you've got a backup system. that costs money. we've heard senate majority leader mitch mcconnell say, i'm not supporting the concept of the feds coming in for security on elections because i think elections are about the states. well, let's play out the boston case scenario. the state, the town, key swing states, they get hit, they look to the federal government for help, the federal government says, we're not helping. now we don't know what that election outcome is in key precincts on election day. >> clinical, ...

Goldmacher, national political reporter for "the new york practically speaking, how do you times." defend against what clint's describing? shane, let me start with you. big day tomorrow for tom steyer. >> well, it's interesting you mention the thousands of if he does not reach that magic municipalities involved in this. number in either one of those because they're being hit right polls and does not make the now. debate stage, what does that do we have several states and for hi little municipalities in the >> for starters the odds are country right now who are against him in those two polls li...