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Which locality got struck by it. >> and frank, the scale of what clint's describing there, 50 states, but within the states you're talking about hundreds of cities, towns, precincts, potentially, where these records are going to be kept. practically speaking, how do you defend against what clint's describing? >> well, it's interesting you mention the thousands of municipalities involved in this. because they're being hit right now. we have several states and little municipalities in the country right now who are literally being extorted for their own data at town hall. so this is part of what'...

Literally being extorted for their own data at town hall. so this is part of what's driving, in addition to the mueller report findings and the fact that the russians did this in 2016 and waved at us and said, we can get into your town hall voter registration, we now have a realtime problem where towns are being held hostage. this is where the federal government needs to step in, and they are, at least now, and they're saying, you need backup systems, standalone systems, constantly backing up, making the backup database secure, so that if it goes down you've got a backup system. that costs mon...

Goldmacher, national political reporter for "the new york practically speaking, how do you times." defend against what clint's describing? shane, let me start with you. big day tomorrow for tom steyer. >> well, it's interesting you mention the thousands of if he does not reach that magic municipalities involved in this. number in either one of those because they're being hit right polls and does not make the now. debate stage, what does that do we have several states and for hi little municipalities in the >> for starters the odds are country right now who are against him in those two polls li...

Immigration system, starting with the d.r.e.a.m. act kids, i think, is a good down payment on what will eventually be a comprehensive solution to a broken immigration system to the president. you have a chance to show the nation as the president of all of us where your heart's at. you have a chance as the leader of the republican party to do two things. say that we are the party of constitutional process, that we believe in doing it right, but right means taking care of these kids. >> senator, for both of you, there are a lot of republicans who feel that if you give these young people legal st...

Rejecting the request for her to appear this thursday. if secretary kathleen sebelius appears next week pennsylvania republican congressman tim murphy will be one of those questioning her. he's the chief congressional investigator of the obama care roll out. good to see you. she rejected the invitation for thursday because she'll be at a gala on wednesday night and couldn't make it. your thoughts on the rejection and now the statement that she intends to be there the following week ? >> this is something that's d p deeply concerning. the realtime problem is now, not a week from now. i'm please...