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Egyptian television where we're expecting to get a statement from the office of egyptian presidency. we're waiting for that. let's go to "new york times" op-ed columnist, nicholas kristof who's just back from cairo. when you hear about these developments, what are you thinking? >> well, hosni mubarak appears to have left cairo for sharm el-sheikh and my bet is that he will never see cairo again. it seems to be a step he's going not going to be able to go backyard on. at this point, they have this statement and a population that is also refusing to go back. and at that point, i think we have to...