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Going to happen in that short period of time. simply because for the democratic side and the team trump and republican side, there just is no appetite on either political side at the moment. including from the respective political bases to break the stalemate. democrats beginning to stand up against donald trump in his big, bad wall and xenophobic immigration policies and trump is getting to stand up and say, no. this is my line in the sand. so for the time being, again, this could change very soon in the next days or few weeks, once the shutdown actually does start inflicting more serious pai...

Are wanting -- >> tucker: you are not going to address my question. i don't want to be mean. >> the fact of the matter is, what she is saying is what border experts say, by and large, which is that a 25-foot concrete wall is unnecessary. it is not necessary to spend that money. physical not going to work. >> tucker: you just said we have more people coming in than we did with the democrats but you are telling me it is not necessary to secure the border with a big, bad wall. a virtual wall would be okay. democrats just want to save money. that's their motto, how can we save taxpayers money? >> ...

Are wanting -- >> tucker: you are not going to address my question. i don't want to be mean. >> the fact of the matter is, what she is saying is what border experts say, by and large, which is that a 25-foot concrete wall is unnecessary. it is not necessary to spend that money. and it's not going to work. t >> tucker: you just said we have more people coming in than we did with the democrats but you are telling me it is not necessary to secure the border with a big, bad wall. a virtual wall would be okay. democrats just want to save money.ot s that's their motto, how can we save taxpayers mone...