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Starting in 2011, subject to review of conditions on the ground, but the bake mission. and petraeus said, yes, sir, yes, mr. president, i agree. >> colonel, now that the dust has cleared and we have a new leader in afghanistan, let me ask you about the critique of this administration by mcchrystal and his team in the article in "rolling stone," which everybody is going to be reading now, oddly enough, after the removal of mcchrystal. anyway, the shot against the president for not being prepared in the initial meetings, not knowing who petraeus was, the shot general at bide and, the shot callin...

Next for the war on the ground in afghanistan? retired colonel jack jacobs an msnbc analyst and "newsweek's" jonathan alter, author of "the promise." congratulations, jonathan. once again, you've scored a big one in your book "the promise." it's got all about the run-up to this with the fights between the president and general mcchrystal. it's a great look, by the way. anybody who wants to read a look at how we got to today read "the promise" by john. let me start with colonel jacobs on the ground over there in afghanistan. we were just debate is as we came out of the first part of the program...

Relaxation of the deadline to begin withdrawing. >> that's the heart of my question. i want to get to that. >> did petraeus say, wait a minute, mr. president, but i need more flexibility. >> behind all this, if you read all the comments, especially some on the republican side, is a basic conflict. counterinsurgency means you eliminate the taliban at some point, like the viet cong. counterinsurgency beat the rebel forces, in this case the taliban. knock them out as a military potential and basically make that country inhospitable to them in the future. at the same time you're making this incred...