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Cluster munition. obviously there are concerns about what happens to some of those bomblets that don't go off. the ukrainians, we heard the defense minister thanking the u.s. in a tweet for these weapons. he said that ukraine has been pursuing the weapons for a very long line. he said ukraine would follow three basic principles, that they would not be used in urban areas, that they would only be used to liberate territory currently occupied by the russians and they would keep detailed records of where they were used so when the war comes to an end, they can remove any so-c so-c so-called duds ...

What's happening? >> reporter: what we saw there was that russian forces in and around bakhmut are being pounded by heavy ukrainian artillery. the ukrainian troops we spoke to said they have noticed a decrease in the amount of income russian rounds because they believe the russians have been pushed back further. in fact, today we heard from the third assault brigade, which is the unit that's spearheading the offensive in the south of bakhmut, and they said they have taken strategic high ground in a village just south of bakhmut. so they continue to make small but important gains on the battlef...

Cia chief, and we are talking. i told him about all the important things related to the battlefield, which we need. >> and what was widely reported was that burns wanted to talk about -- talked about the current ukrainian counteroffensive and also the possibility of a negotiated settlement to the war by the end of the year. brianna? >> what are you seeing, ben, of the counteroffensive from where you are? >> reporter: what we see is that the fighting is intense, and the ukrainians are saying that, for instance, over the last week, they have been able to seize in the south, south of zaporizhzhia...

This point in time, and this is slow progress, but it is intended to be slow progress. i had a lot of years in combat, and it was slow for me as well. particularly when you're talking about the trenches dug in. bonkers, elaborate defense systems. you have to fight through all of that stuff. and the ukrainians have been fighting the front line forces at this particular point trying to breakthrough that massive defense of the russians. they're trying to find the vulnerabilities. and so that is why this war has been so slow. the heavy fight is still to come. where the main russian defense belt is...