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And non-presidential behavior, there's really very little for a president to stand on to take that privilege and make it work. so the courts will balance and find out. maybe they'll say some documents should be included in executive privilege. it's not. it's a balancing process, but i think he's going to lose on it. it's just a stall. >> he's done that so many times before. that's right out of his playbook. on so many things, but when you hear there are three handwritten notes from mark meadows about january 6th, that's at least what we understand to be the case with these documents. that is f...

Absolute immunity for anybody to appear before congress. when the u.s. decided the nixon case, they absolutely said that there was no absolute privilege, rather it had to be weighed in each instance as to the needs for those who are asking for the information and the person who's resisting giving the information. absolute privileges are very rare in the law. and they're always this balancing process. this total immunity is part of the so-called executive theory of unitary executive theory that will theoretically make the person immune to congress. and that just doesn't play in our system. >> w...

Misconduct. that warrants us having an impeachment inquiry. >> but what changed -- having an impeachment inquiry, does it give you any more power to actually get witnesses to show up? subpoena seems to be a pretty strong thing and they're ignoring subpoenas. >> subpoenas are a strong think. the average american knows they can't ignore a subpoena and neither can the president. he can't instruct the people that work for him or don't even work for him anymore to ignore a subpoena. when we go to court to enforce the subpoenas, as we will, the court looks at it as a balancing process. they look at ...

President interfering with the investigation of that russian interference. volume three is the coverup. that's what he's doing right now. he's trying to cover up his misconduct. that warrants us having an impeachment inquiry. >> but what changed -- having an impeachment inquiry, does it give you any more power to actually get witnesses to show up? subpoena seems to be a pretty strong thing and they're ignoring subpoenas. >> subpoenas are a strong think. the average american knows they can't ignore a subpoena and neither can the president. he can't instruct the people that work for him or don't...

There is resilient in american politics, so i think -- don't underestimate the degree to which people all over the world are focusing on our political fever and wondering what's happening in america. tonight is important as it is is a domestic story it does have international repercussions. >> you think they'll be international headlines tomorrow about a virginia -- >> i don't want to say that they're going to be top headlines but i'd be surprised if every correspondent for major foreign newspapers doesn't talk about what does this tell us about where america is. there's been real concern. whe...