Usually it'just a turnout constituency. you have to look to reagan for a truly persuadable -- we saw a little with obama, a little trump. but there are people now in this country saying, i previously performed as republican voter, but i'm not sure i want to do that now. the question, alicia, for democrats, is this, do they see that opportunity? and i would say dobbs is the perfect example. the reflects of nature on both sides of the dobbs today was to celebrate and to condemn, either condemn with absolutism or chair with absolutism. but what the court has done is create a tens of a millions of...