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Out of his earnings. what matters on the loans is we don't know the terms of them or who the money is owed to. do they have clauses that require him to make certain ratios? is he subject to pressure for a balloon payment on any of those loans. we have no idea. >> you make the right point. stupid to confuse the two terms. couldn't be more different. revenue is about gross amount of money that comes in. income he'll claim for himself. one of the problems in putting the two together is we don't know about the llcs he has. he has like 500 of them. we don't know where he's keeping money and where h...

Portfolio. david, what do you see and hear that people need to know? >> well, first of all, his income isn't 434 million. that's the revenue of his businesses. >> fair point. >> his income is likely to be only 5 or 10% of that and he shows over $300 million of loans. so he's paying a lot of interest out of his earnings. what matters on the loans is we don't know the terms of them or who the money is owed to. do they have clauses that require him to make certain ratios? interest rates? is he subject to pressure for a balloon payment on any of those loans. we have no idea. >> you make the right ...

Access to the presidents' daily brief. in that daily brief were numerous reports about saudi disdents and shared that with the saudi crown prince and he had meetings without having anyone in the embassy there and we know the crowned prince most likely ordered the killing of khashoggi. we know his ordering the bombing of hundreds of thousands of civilians in yemen and here there are ser dwroious allegati what he is sharing. this is not a burro ceaucratic issue. >> we know just from public reporting that one of the challenges jared kushner had getting a clearance is the fact he was in a lot of d...

This is jared kushner. >> yep. >> who has gotten a loan, at first we thought from saudi arabia, now we believe it's from qatar, while this president has been president, he was seeking out money to save some big project here in new york that r. just near here. and he did get money and it was not saudi arabia, it was qatar. >> let me focus on that. we were fixated on that during this show. jared kushner as you know over leveraged his company purchasing a building for a billion dollars, 666 fifth avenue, a couple blocks from rockefeller center, owed a balloon payment on that last january and all ...

To have access to their it over and again people wanted information. a biden harris ticket. >> and david, let's talk the search for safety. money wise there's also a about -- there was the back channel communication that certain safety in picking a good malcolm just talked about. fundraiser. beto o'rourke raised a whole lot there were these weird meetings of money. it's interesting to me that a f between the head of a bank that was aligned with the kremlin that was secret during the lost their races, campaign that he also lied about. in the open i talked about 666 bill, heidi, four out of five...