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Better in congressional ballot tests that we were hearing several weeks back, it seems so much of that has changed, and is there that sinking realization on the hill among republicans that this actually is going to, despite what donald trump says about a red wave, that things are getting worse by the day for republicans? >> yes. if you talk to republicans in the leadership on capitol hill they recognize that this is the cleanest test of their political fortunes at the moment. the interesting thing, this hasn't gotten a ton of ink, but in private polling the president's actually right side up i...

Day the red sox have a chance of winning one of three at yankee stadium. >> i'm from massachusetts of course you have to say yes. we're a couple months from football season, it's may. >> one other question. seriously. obviously i never at this time of the year and i'm sure you're the same way, i never look at generic ballot tests. just doesn't matter. it's always the intensity of the voters, the intensity of the base. now, we've seen in past elections democrats outperforming republicans. more democrats going to the polls. we saw it in 2010 throughout the year in the primaries especially. we sa...

About why they were underperforming, in pennsylvania, 18. the guy didn't raise any money. here, none of those were true and we saw a tremendous shift in the republican land and when you put the numbers together it's just not good for them. >> again, putting the numbers together. we've had nine special elections so far and they tell a pretty consistent story. look at the special elections and try to reconcile it with the congressional ballot tests which show republicans they're better because they're not quite on the same level. >> we have seen republicans close nationwide and the democrats are...

But i have a question, do those generic ballot tests, do they matter when in virginia, alabama and these specials, it's all about turnout and intensity because republican candidates are getting 97%, 98%, 99% of the vote, they're just more democrats motivated to go vote against trump. >> the generic ballots don't matter until august of the election year, that's what history teaches us. what you care more about is passionate intensity. when i ran president obama's campaign, the number i looked at everyday was intensity. are my voters more motivated than republican voters? in election after elect...

Ballot tests. they're getting pounded by at least 14 or 15 points by democrats. lock at t look at the state houses in virginia and the state of alabama. that historic contest. you look at historical races into pennsylvania and across the country. republicans are getting walloped because of how offensive donald trump is thinking this is 1972 and there's a southern strategy. there is no southern strategy anymore. it doesn't even work in the deep south. so what's the long-term impact on republicans as the president continues to make racist remarks? >> it's pretty bleak, i think. and you pointed o...