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Michigan. but wisconsin is key. you cannot win the white house electorally without going through a blue or purple state. we have a migration issue in our party. red voters are going to red states. 300,000 moved to florida last year to texas. which means we are leaving blue and purple states. the pat electorally to the white house runs through the midwest and wisconsin, i think, is going to be key to us winning the white house. >> bret: i find it interesting. i want to play a piece of this political ad, bank your vote. >> you could bank your vote by casting your ballot before election day eithe...

>> i know the early voeing numbers, people had been voting for several days. >> this is a place where that quote you played from trump is born out a little bit. in the purple here, you have got 2018 versus 2014. everywhere you have -- look at this number in texas. you are talking about more than three million early votes. yes, across the vote early voting is higher. that tends to be good for democrats. the thing to remember is early voting, these are people banking votes. these are votes that are already cast before election day. the question is which party turns out better on election day. re...

Early vote and what you end up doing is banking votes. people who you might not know or 100% slam dunk people but the people to see president obama speak. you go bank those and then work on the people who haven't voted yet and this was the model the obama campaign used in 2012 and the clinton campaign also used to their advantage in the primaries against bernie sanders. >> let me pick up on that point with you. you talked about the fact the clinton campaign studied what the obama campaign did closely. >> they definitely have and they've done it well. they've organized themselves. the problem i...

>> already election day. early voting starts today! today! >> she then went on to actually a marching band led the crowd down the street to the polling station, which is sort of amazing. so they are banking votes. and i think maybe that's giving them a sense of confidence despite the president's lackluster debate performance, that they've already locked in some of the lead that they've enjoyed. >> no, that's interesting. a personal editorial comment here. i'm all for making it easy to vote. this early voting thing, it's gotten out of control. make it a little tighter closer to the election. >>...