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A contract discussion. and we have made changes in district after district about health care and have been charged in large measure under our previous bargaining system with the kind of contributions that are made. they get charged against our settlement packages. so salary dollars have been given up in order to meet those particular demands. >> i'm assuming with the governor, judging from his words that i've read, is trying to make it easier for some of the local districts to do what they have to do to keep the schools viable and to protect public jobs. what they're arguing is if we do not ge...

More fantastic as private sector? >> it's crazy. eight of ten jobs, sectors the government workers make more. we grew up when you worked for government and you make less and get a retirement on the back end. now you get it both ways. the government is getting bigger, not larger. not the state and local but the federal government is growing like crazy. >> how did we get to this point in our history, where you can make more -- this never happened before. that you make more money doing the same job in the government that you did in the private sector. for 200 years or maybe until f.d.r., maybe fo...

Government would be so much more fantastic as private sector? >> it's crazy. eight of ten jobs, sectors the government workers make more. we grew up when you worked for government and you make less and get a retirement on the back end. now you get it both ways. the government is getting bigger, not larger. not the state and local but the federal government is growing like crazy. >> how did we get to this point in our history, where you can make more -- this never happened before. that you make more money doing the same job in the government that you did in the private sector. for 200 years or ...