Do is refit these troops, resupply them, and put them back into ukraine for offensive operations somewhere else. >> so the bottom line is, they're having fuel problems, they're having food problems, this might not be a trust building -- in terms of negotiations with ukrainians in might be that there repositioning, as john kirby says, refitting their troops for another fence that might be coming, steph. >> ali, always good to see. you thank you for joining us at this very early and early our, where you, are in the. thank you, ali. with, that let's bring in our experts this evening, phil rucker,...