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Amount of support from union workers. plus, just his being in government for the decades he has been, he has cultivated a lot of these relationships. going back to some of the points he was making earlier on the health care issue, that's where candidates like elizabeth warren, bernie sanders and others may need to explain themselves and talk a little bit more about how it is going to affect organized labor to get on board. it may not be automatic. it may take time. it is still possible. joe biden is in the best position to get a good chunk of their support. >> garrett, basil, matt, thank you f...

Eliminated that hurts them in a lot of respects. joe biden and john delaney have used to to attack further folks left. basil makes a very good point on janis. one thing they have not done a good job, draw a straight line between voting and judges. also with car check in past years, do they make the argument that judges matter? voting for a democratic president, they can roll back some of these union restrictions. >> talk about joe biden a bit. he has the support of a big union, international association of firefighters. he is popular with that voting bloc. do you expect other big unions to get...

Focus on automation. 20 million jobs worldwide by 2035 will be lost to automation. and health care. one thing that is concerning to a lot of the union members is a lot of the arguments and debates over health care. a lot of them in collective bargaining gave up salary for better health care. so they will be really nervous about the democratic proposals. not to say that they need to be, but i think they need to hear from democrats about how they are going to protect their health care. if we focus on those three issues, we can start to get back some of those workers's support. >> basil, interest...

To them >> valuable indeed. fair, you have a future as an announcer at the golf channel. bas basil, hillary clinton took the union vote by more than 16 percentage points in 2016. they under ts performed becopera who won four years earlier. a lot of union share shifted towards president trump. point is, this is no longer a slam dunk for democrats, right? >> reporter: that's exactly right. they need to focus on three important areas. one is membership. as garrett pointed out, collective bargaining rights, at least in two dozen states, have been prohibited or greatly restricted. take michigan alo...