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Back now with my panel. we're having a quiet conversation. van, you wanted to say something. >> i was just going to point out that the prior president, obama, he didn't like the kneeling either, but the way he dealt with it was not to insert himself into the private market and try and boss people around. what he said was i really want kaepernick to listen to the people who might feel offended and i want the people who might feel offended to listen to kaepernick. snernlds, you can oppose the protest. you can do it in a way that brings more unity and understanding. >> you're being way too cerebr...

He didn't like the kneeling either, but the way he dealt with it was not to insert himself into the private market and try and boss people around. what he said was i really want kaepernick to listen to the people who might feel offended and i want the people who might feel offended to listen to kaepernick. in other words, you can oppose the protest. you can do it in a way that brings more unity and understanding. >> you're being way too cerebral. this is not about what's the right thing to do or the deliberate thoughtful thing to do. we just saw why donald trump is doing it. we saw that segmen...