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On successor by name? >> he's been reluctant to do this. but he's been facing calls during entire trump's presidency he's refrained and offered some criticism as president trump has gone after him. but i've watched him at senator mccain's funeral, and that you' speech was against president trump but today he called him a d demi god and i think it's a big switch and a sign of how important the midterm elections are to both parties. this is rally your base election.

And it's a sign of how important the midterm elections are to both parties. this is a rally your base election. in a weird way, obama's speech may be helpful for trump's quest to get his base out, like every time trump makes a speech at a rally it may be useful to obama's base and getting them to come out this fall. >> ryan, as i pointed out president obama had not a lot to say before the election, but it didn't make much of a difference. it's weird watching he predicted all of this as a lot of people did. do you think it's going to make much of a difference now? >> well, i think, look, i thin...

If that wasn't bad enough, the anonymous op-ed piece in "the new york times" and now you have barack obama getting off the political sidelines and back into the political arena and unusually powerful shots for a former president against the current president. if donald trump thinks he's under fire, it's because he is. >> shepard: the goal from barack obama or any democrats is to get democrats out to vote. but you wonder if the site and sound of barack obama wouldn't have the effect of bringing out the republican base instead. i wonder from a washington perspective what your thoughts are on tha...

Stupid. i don't know how ron desantis or any of his team sent him out there to say that. i think the democrats got a big boost yesterday. i think they have a leg up. by the way, this is just politically speaking, because he is viewed as a more far left, supported by bernie sanders, i think in this case because this is a base election and this election will be about donald trump, that this was a very smart move by democratic voters in florida to pick gillum and i think he's going to give ron desantis a tough race. there is no reason why ron desantis teed this up in a way to generate all these n...

Things. also a senate race playing out. so florida now, as usual, the most important state midterm. >> i don't see these guys moving to the middle. this is going to be a base election. gillum is going to try to turn out young people, minorities. desantis is going to try to turn out people who love trump the most. trump is going to come down. i would say desantis should bring trump. >> before we go off what happened last night, i want to talk about arizona. that's the old way. you have two of the most moderate members of the house who are now going to run for the senate seat being left by jeff ...