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Road candidate in the middle of the road, in the center. meanwhile the republicans in florida have just run these base elections, inspire, in some cases inflame, get your voters to the polls, get them passionate, get them to turn out. the joke kept being on democrats. now whether they intended to or not, the florida democratic party nominated someone who is using that same kind of technique that the republicans had used but now it looks like some of the republicans are a little nervous. they're like, wow, andrew gillum has a passionate following. >> ron desantos won his election on the primary...

Transformed theoretically into voters. every week their decision to be engaged is getting reinforced by this continual news cycle about this investigation. so that's certainly not making republicans happy, given that midterms tend to be base elections. >> you look at the other political calls that donald trump has made in days of late. he's threatening a government shutdown. he's threatening to build the wall. he's much more concerned with going back to his greatest hits and rallying up the base than he is helping out republicans in tough swing districts. >> lisa, thank you for spending time w...

Is it enough to help him and republicans on the political stage. i read where "new york times" he's done this review of all the ads in ohio. most republicans are not actually talking about the economy but it seems kind of counterintuitive. why not? >> it depends on what you trying to do. the conventional wisdom is that midterm elections are based versus base elections. you got to get true believers out. what republicans found that culture wars wedge issues work better than other things when it comes to frightening or enraging the people who they want to get to the polls. saying, everything is ...

Democrats. what's the premise there and do you agree? >> i agree with the headline that they put out is fairly salacious. i agree with this. the democratic, the future for this party depends on whether or not they can compete in base elections. if they can get it done in the midterm and can they get back these voters that he lost to donald trump? can they bring these folks home and put their coalition back together? because if they can't, if they continue to be at incredible deficit at state level, state legislatures, governorships, if they can't get back congress. they start to look like the ...

Getting to the point where the final third of the electorate that's going to show up is starting to pay attention. we have to really remind ourselves that most people don't care that much about politics like we have to, so those people who are starting to pay attention now are the ones that are going to be key, and i think over the -- you'll see the polls in new hampshire as well as nationwide start to stableize as they decide, first off, whether they're going to vote or not and then the independents, the people who aren't really that political will decide who they vote for. i think it's going...