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This is really an effort to aim squarely at some of these voters that are moderate republicans, maybe convincible independents. the theory being, those individuals are the ones who are going to swing the election in november. the challenge with the theory, of course, is midterm electorates traditionally have been base electorates. it is about getting out the republican base or the democratic base. this appeal really is something that, i think, will energize democrats, yes, but also republicans. again, the idea is they can get enough independent support, maybe they can win in the marginal distr...

>> lon hi, we should say something here that when 44 got elected, 43 did the usual classy president thing and said i'm going to coop my silence and hang back and enjoy retirement. i'm quite certain that 44, in criticizing 45, it was not an easy decision for him. what else did you find notable today? >> it could not have been an easy decision because it was clearly not something -- it was a break with tradition. i thought the other thing that was interesting was how aggressively president obama tied what president trump has done to the republican party. this is really an effort to aim squarely ...

Of course, is midterm electorates traditionally have been base electorates. it is about getting out the republican base or the democratic base. this appeal really is something that, i think, will energize democrats, yes, but also republicans. again, the idea is they can get enough independent support, maybe they can win in the marginal districts. >> jonathan, obama could not make the difference for hillary clinton in 2016. we may well learn that there were other factors at work. obviously, a midterm is different. obviously, absence maybes the heart grow fonder, especially on the left. do you t...