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These talking points. it is giving them a real political tool for base motivation. whether that translates to anything with the general electorate is one question, but hey, you got republicans in charge of the house. and this is probably going to drive the bus for some legislation that we're going to see coming down the pike. >> yeah. you made a great point there. even just from the republican's perspective, this just adds fuel to the fire that we know is coming if there are future indictments of donald trump and even hunter biden, the president's son. >> about discrediting the fbi and trying ...

>> as a third party spoiler? >> that sounds like he's not running for re-election, is what that sounds like. i have a better chance of winning south carolina than joe pan chin does against -- man din does against joe -- manchin does with joe biden. if it's anyone besides trump, it's a real problem because trump provides the base motivation for democrats. that's what took us from a historical 125 million-vote turn out to 150 last time. and so i think that's their hope, that they get the rematch that they want and the rest of the country really isn't looking for. shannon: well, and, mo, presiden...

Former adviser steve bannon said the longer they -- meaning democrats -- talk about identity politics, i got them. i want them to talk about racism every day. if the left is focused on race and identity and we go with economic nationalism we could crush the democrats. david zweigle said that worked out but democrats took back the house but do you think it is part of a strategy? >> i think it is partly. but i think we should be careful about the use of the use of politics that bannon points out. democrats aren't the only one that is engaging in -- >> this is identity politics. >> this is a stra...

Thinking of illinois, they don't want trump in their districts and if he goes in there he revs up independents and democrats. so it's a very clear strategy of base motivation and trying to avoid places where he's just going to rev up the other side. >> donny deutsch, when the sides get revved up that's when they go out to vote more. we had some stats come out yesterday showing that we got more voters, as mika just said, more voters voting early than 2016. democrats were ahead of republicans at this point in 2016. republicans are now ahead of democrats in 2016, and you were saying well what can...

That are in office right now have been doing. >> so doug, are there internal divisions within the party? not just the republican party but democrat party too, which really might stand in the way of clear messaging? >> sure. if you look at what happened in the new york primary, two very different visions of what the democratic party would be. a bit of chickens before they're matched with joe crowley. again, this is where we're going to find out who's the most motivated and whether or not the trump voter essentially acts as an obama voter, meaning when their candidate is on the ballot, they are ...