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Everything being a base play. >> plus the low expects that everyone had for him and his policies are more popular than he is conceptually. that's a total reverse from obama. people liked obama, but not so much his policies. he never moved away from a campaign. whether it be a twitter or periodic campaign rallies. he goes after the democrats like we are in the middle of a campaign. he is planning to engage in more of that if republicans will have him. it will be difficult for the president to ever be in a different political situation than now. republicans will need heavy turn out and enthusias...

Money. why else would he do it. and then did this to the evangelicals and like the real hawks but going around mending fences and saying 40% is good enough for me but i'm going to hold that 40. >> it is a base play. and -- >> a base play. i love that lingo. >> and that might be something you would do in addition if you were worried about holding the line among congressional republicans if you were potentially bound for an impeachment proceeding. you have to hold the line with congressional republicans and make sure they are shored up on the right, and are going to stand with you. if the muelle...

They were a staple of his rally speeches during the campaign. the question to you is, do you think these numbers are baked into the cake to mix my metaphors that he is going to be underwater but this is about damage control and moving forward and trying to cobble together some semblance of an agenda? >> and, of course, poll numbers don't really necessarily matter at this point because the election is you know about a year, 3 1/2 years away. so you can make the case, you know, what do these polling numbers matter right now. but they do matter to someone whose election is not 3 1/2 years away an...

That donald trump doesn't talk about the polls anymore. they were a staple of his rally speeches during the campaign. the question to you is do you think these numbers are baked into the cake to mix my metaphors that he is going to be underwater, but this is about damage control and moving forward and trying to cobble together some semblance of an agenda? >> and of course poll numbers don't really necessarily matter at this point because the election is, you know, 3 1/2 years away. so i mean you can make the case, you know, what do these polling numbers matter right now. but they do matter to ...

Items yet. i want to share before we go, the "washington post," they have a few theories about why president trump had the meeting with putin. there's something nefarious going on or trump is on blif yus how it might be perceived or trump is addicted to causing controversy and or sees it as a gop base play. i have a few lawmakers lined up in the hour, both republicans and democrats, we're going to dig into it and find out their response. i can tell you, i'm fatigued by it. president trump, just be transparent. let's move forward. we're going to talk to those lawmakers, not just about the russi...