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Independents believe he bears some responsibility for what they see as a terrible day in american history. >> the big lie has become doctrine and those poll numbers reflect it. that they down played the violence we saw on january 6, 2021, saying it was normal, peaceful protests. it's not hurting the republican party. this poll is eliminating it may hurt him with independents. he has a base problem. they need to re-energize young voters, progressives, voters of color. they feel good about where they are among independents. independents, particularly next year when presented with that binary cho...

>> we have a bit of time but there are a lot of data pointses showing that joe biden struggling. my theory is 60% in race. when you look at former president trump he was 90% in his primary. did have primary oshg ponentses and more popular biden has a base problem. >> well it is a lot going with dissatisfaction of many importance the latest showing biden 51% disapproval. starts with every day things moms like and you i going to the grocery store and getting frustrated every time we check out because of the prices and going to the gas station looking at the prices of having to fill up cars. is t...

Compared to the alternative. the alternative yet. we only have a little bit of time here. but you know, there are a lot data points showing that joe biden's struggling. and my theor showing ideny is this, you know, he's at 60% and his race against the dems, when you look awhen yt former president trump, he was at nearly 90% in his primary. he did have some primary opponents. he was much more popular. biden' bs got a base problem. i think there's a lot going on with the dissatisfaction of many americans. the latest poll that i sawn 51 showing biden at 51% disapproval rating. first of all, it st...

Republican message. if you add the abortion message into it, the republicans are on the defense with abortion, on donald trump, maga stuff, at exactly the same time that you say you're starting to see for the first time real movement away from the trumpism of the republican party at exactly the wrong time. we are 57 days out before this election and republicans have base problem, and for the first time in a long time you see democrats more enthusiastic, which is a number you and i know is the most important number in a midterm election. >> jim, good morning. it's jonathan. it's not just it see...

But i don't want to just put this at the feet of donald trump. this has been a part of american political life for a while, and now this is just kind of the outcome, the exaggerated consequence of processes unleashed over decades in american politics. >> exactly right. >> charlie, yeah, i mean, i want to get your thoughts on the voters, what it tells us about republican voters. >> no, i think this is an important point. look, there's a leadership problem in the republican party, but there's also a base problem, because ultimately, voters in these states had a choice, and this is what they want...