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>> i actually read this in the "federalist" which you published, the money primary is really important. as sam was saying, in the same way his base has been kind of the beltway media and his base in the republican party has really been kind of like hedge fund guys in new york. right? right, ben? that's where a lot of these, quote, base support is. >> exactly. that's -- i think it's actually just going to lead us to a situation where 2016 is all the more open for republicans in terms of the field. you're not going to have as big of an investment to back christie early on and clear the path real...

Something jonathan capehart said on "hard ball". >> he's a smart guy, that jonathan -- >> he noted that the president hasn't done a great job of being a cheer leader for his own message because it's difficult for him to do that. you need third party validators doing that. we saw during the campaign that bill clinton was able to articulate a stronger message than the president himself. with respect to economic growth in particular, when you have elements of the president's base, african-americans still unemployment rates that are about twice white unemployment rates and latinos as well, it's di...

>> reporter: good morning. we just saw the mayor come in. he has an air of confidence. carol, what they're going to do is debate this motion at city hall. the motion saying that the mayor should apologize to council and the city for misleading it. but they want the mayor to step down for a period of time to take care of what many admit, including the mayor, has been a very chaotic percentage life. having said that, the mayor and his supporters still saying that they absolutely do not think that he should have to step down no matter what. even if it means that he is dealing with the percentage ...

Itself. it displays sufficient fervor. that's why there is no talking them out of it. elect republicans and they will burn the place down. and they like the sound of that. and they will laugh while they do it and now we're left to figure out what happens next. joining us now is dave wiegle, the political reporter for "slate.com" and a long time reporter on the conservative movement. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> good morning. you covered that lynn westmoreland speech to the freedom conference in 2010 before the election he is already asking for base support for the r...

Political reporter for slate.com and a long time student reporter on the conservative movement. thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> you covered that speech in 2010 before the election. he's already asking for base support for a shut down. when were you covering that at the time was it weird in the moment? or did it seem like kind of expected rhetoric? >> reporter: in the moment it was very coherent for a lot of the reasons you laid out here. and some of the quotes you were playing before made this clear. at the time, republicans were saying they were going to shut down or wil...