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If you salute the stores walking away from it, make sure people know if they're reading it next to you who is on the cover and what they're supporting. >> steve: the other component is, extremists are trying to recruit young people for jihad. that is just a known fact. and this could give jihad another recruiting tool. 72 virgins, that's interesting to some. but the cover of the rolling stone, that's delicious. >> gretchen: the irs scandal is coming back and it could be closer now to the white house. there is going to be testimony coming up today. the retiring irs lawyer. we talked about him a...

Today could we find out that there has been a link between that person and the white house? that is the $25 million question today. >> steve: so when we heard this story in the beginning, oh, it's just some rogue low level people, rogue agents in cincinnati, some of those agents in cincinnati are going, wait a minute. we're not rogue. we were just following orders. in fact, elizabeth hofacre is one of the agents in cincinnati. she will be testifying. carter hull will be testifying. what's different about what they're going to say than lois lerner is reportedly mr. hull is not going to take the...

Rogue agents out there in cincinnati? that was not true. somebody in cincinnati was upset by that and started talking. we're talking about elizabeth hofacre, based in cincinnati, going to be testified today. she is going to say she was targeting people based on advice given to her by a d.c. lawyer named carter hall. carter hall, we told you his name a couple of weeks ago showing it was bigger than cincinnati. apparently carter hall who is about to retire at age 72, he's naming names. later today he will implicate the i.r.s. chief counsel's office who is a barack obama appointee by the name of ...