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Economy? you've said it yourself, it's -- there's nowhere -- it's not a republican debt or a democratic debt, it's an american debt and it's been accumulated by all americans. why should the republicans stay on the sidelines here? why should you be responsible for governing if you're going to be irresponsible when in the minority? >> a couple things. whenever we've raised the debt ceiling in the past it's mostly been under divided government. this is one of the first times when you have all the tools to raise it yourself and, again, the difference is i cut it off at the end of last fiscal year...

The government from shutting down? >> this is going to be one of the most interesting things i've witnessed since i've been in the senate, neil, and it's in the context -- you've got to remember that we run trillion dollar deficits annually. and with this new baseline spending, those are soon to go to $1.5 trillion. and for all your viewers out there, divide that into what we spend each year, $4.5 trillion. that means the government is already routine libor rowing close to -- routinely borrowing close to 25% of what we spend. you and i have talked about it before, i call democrats political op...

Over eight years including baseline spending and that it wouldn't include a tax increase. i just feel like we've missed a real opportunity here for at least 20 republicans to join with the other democrats to pass the most robust infrastructure package that we could have. >> any hope of a potential bipartisan deal shifts to a different group of senators. one of them republican bill cassidy tweeting yesterday the president just called to discuss infrastructure. goes on to stay strongly support senator capito's efforts. any package must be bipartisan. whether they there be a bipartisan infrastruc...

Infrastructure? >> yes. and the president name dropped -- or jen psaki name dropped bill cassidy as one of the new republicans that the president is talking to as he looks for another way to get the size of the package that he wants. so they are not saying this is something that is done and that they are moving on from. but they are saying that when the president goes overseas tomorrow for his first trip to europe as president, he is going it be in touch with lawmakers back here in washington trying to figure out how much money he can get for this package. >> bret: peter doocy live on the nort...

Was our red line, not his. and the last offer that i got from the president had four tax increases in it. and it also was much closer in numbers what the white house is putting out right now. so i'm disappointed with that. but, i just feel like we have missed a real opportunity here for at least 20 republicans to join with the other democrats to pass the most robust infrastructure package that we could have. and i'm still very dedicated to it and will be working through my committee to see that we at least get the legislation to back this up. >> bret: let me drill down into the wields here a l...