Well. you go too far, and you do hand a talking point to the republicans. >> that is a good point because one of the strengths of joe biden is as a general election candidate does he have the ability to support the rest of the ticket? if you're talking about swing states and swing districts, what is the ability of any other candidate and joe biden to be able to start flipping seats? if you have a policy like the crime bill that he supported, there are voters in those districts that actually might still be supportive of that kind of legislation and it works to his benefit. >> all right, gentlem...