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Shutdown in 2013 in that fall and we have gring rch. >> i also think one of the things starting to change is so far we've had a catastrophic presidency but the kind of material consequences for people who don't live in puerto rico have not been super manifest, right? this is the first time we've seen our norms shredded, our standards shredded, our constitution shredded. but you don't see people dealing with the kaunwith the consequen. >> i thought pelosi move was fascinating. basisically she's playing cards she can play and this is a pretty smart one because she does control who speaks in the ...