Are in this climate right now. >> is that -- intentional discrimination, is that routine for many trials? i've never heard of such a thing. >> well, what happens is -- and this can happen in any case. either side can say what's called a batson challenge. it's an abbreviation for a supreme court case. what it's saying is the other party, in this case, the defense, is trying to exclude a juror based on race, and yo cannot do that under the supreme court, which is the law everywhere. so the way the batson challenge should have played out n this case t prosecution makes it clear i am saying you ar...