Which countries do you look at and think, "my goodness, "they really are making progress now on renewables?" actually, the uk is not doing badly. the uk — if you look at uk emissions over the last 30 years, they've pretty much halved at the same time that the economy has grown. it's basically because we don't use coal to generate our electricity any longer. i sit there in the university and if i look at the technologies that are being developed — so, battery technologies, if it's looking at green industrial processes — green steel, for example, is really developing now — these are all ...