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You back in, this week cnn reported that an official with the supreme headquarters of the allied powers of europe said putin's war in kraeukraine has the nato alliance and its nations absolutely at risk. you have president biden saying nato is as strong as ever. how does that square? >> well, clearly there is a risk. and we've talked about it today. if one of these chemical attacks or something went across a border, now we have an issue. but what -- i think what the good news is, is we are now more ready than we've ever been. we've readied some of the nrf, some of our nato response force of th...

Pulled out all of the churchill references but i will pull out one more, which is churchill in the run-up to world war ii saying to roosevelt, give us the tools, we will finish the job. i think at the end of the day putting those weapons in the hands of the ukrainians across the spectrum of violence is crucial. second and final point on this, joe, it is not just about what we do in ukraine, to ambassador mcfaul's excellent point, it is also what is nato doing. and, oh, by the way, we just added battle groups in all of the nations on the south flank of russia. we already have battle groups to t...

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Listen to the speaker. if russia is to succeed in ukraine we'll move to attack other european countries. you know russian officials are talking about the need to destroy poland and baltic states after ukraine. jonathan: how dangerous is it for the rest of europe? is that a genuine concern that western europe should have? >> yes. nato is obviously concerned. that's why they deployed four additional battle groups around the eastern flank and why we have more military forces there. as this war goes badly for russia, then maybe that threat will diminish. what i would like to see the ukrainian army...

It is necessary to transform and strengthen NATO's deterrence and defense posture in the long term, especially on the Eastern Flank and the Black...