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jacking up interest rates, raising bar owing costs. on thursday our first look at u.s. economic growth for the second quarter, another decline in gdp is expected. of course, two quarters of a loss in a row is a sign of a recession, so are we head there had? here is the treasury secretary. >> the labor market is now extremely strong. we are in a period of transition in which growth is slowly. we're likely to see some slowing of job creation, but i do -- i don't think that that's a recession. a recession is broad-based weakness in the economy. we're not seeing that now. >> we're not se...

'24 this weekend but we have this new cnn reporting that republicans are -- they're hoping for a competitive primary field, right? is that just wishful thinking for some of these caucus members and who could legitimately run against trump for the gop nomination? >> i think there's many people who can run, i don't think it's wishful thinking from governor desantis of florida to vice president pence to nikki haley the former u.n. ambassador. there is a long list of republicans who i think are at least exploring the idea of throwing their hat in the ring and i think they are all plausible candida...