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For agricultural use. >> that's right. so brazil is a major exporter of beef, second only to the united states. >> right. >> it is also a major exporter of soy, which is why going vegan isn't necessarily a way to address this problem. but you have the agricultural interests in this. you have the bbb lobby, the beef, bullets and bible lobby. that helped to elect bolsonaro in the first place. and they are very keen to see this area exploited and to become much wealthier for it. >> let's not forget that brazil is a beneficiary of this trade war between the united states and china because of the s...

Because you're burning that sink and, by the way, putting carbon into the air in the burning of it. >> that's right. it is the world's biggest terrestrial carbon sink. it's also the home of millions of people. it isn't just something that affects all of us because of climate change. but there are many, many people that live in that forest and many of these tribes that are being deliberately displaced through this activity. >> so there is logging going on, clear-cutting and then this is what some are saying the burning of the stuff that's left behind so that that land can be cleared for agricul...

Terrestrial carbon sink. it's also the home of millions of people. it isn't just something that affects all of us because of climate change. but there are many, many people that live in that forest and many of these tribes that are being deliberately displaced through this activity. >> so there is logging going on, clear-cutting and then this is what some are saying the burning of the stuff that's left behind so that that land can be cleared for agricultural use. >> that's right. so brazil is a major exporter of beef, second only to the united states. >> right. >> it is also a major exporter o...