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Bolstering of a wall that people can in fact some places jump over, you're going to have to beef up border patrol grade the other part is that the wall is not the end-all, be-all. a lot of people acknowledge that when you ask them in polling. it's the people who are here in the criminal element the president talked about that is our problem area. these oversees are huge part of why we have been illegal immigration problem. >> judge napolitano, i want to ask you about something in "the new york times" today written by peter baker. in the article is entitled "an itchy twitter finger in the oval ...

Instances that may occur? >> things have been put in place to improve community interaction. i don't know all the things he's going to implement. but he's trying to get the officers to -- >> i think the cameras will help rebuild that trust but it won't be the end-all, be-all. it's just one tool in our toolbox. i think that will make the community feel somewhat more comfortable. so they can see the officers are doing the right thing. i'm all for the cameras because i think a lot of these false complaints the officers will be exonerated. >> are all these officers from baltimore or from different...

Justice system and it also revealed injustices. and so i'm not prepared to say that it was a hollow victory. the reality is that body cameras give an objective view of individuals' encounters. and i'm glad to have supported it and i'm glad to have pushed for it. >> but has it changed your thinking at all? what was your reaction when you saw the video and then you saw the decision by the grand jury? >> i was very disappointed. but body cameras were not the end-all be-all. there were clearly a number of other issues we're pushing in the city of new york going forward including but not limited to...

The reality is that body cameras give an objective view of individuals' encounters. and i'm glad to have supported it and i'm glad to have pushed for it. >> but has it changed your thinking at all? what was your reaction when you saw the video and then you saw the decision by the grand jury? >> i was very disappointed. but body cameras were not the end-all be-all. there were clearly a number of other issues we're pushing in the city of new york going forward including but not limited to the fact we really need an independent prosecutor whenever it comes to police shootings or whenever it comes...

Good question. i don't know. i think jeb bush in a general election does pose some problems, because of issues. he doesn't seem like your typical sort of right wing crazy conservative. like he has some principled views, and to me when he threw this out there, it's nothing new, but almost like he doesn't need it. doesn't need to be president. >> and that usually makes the most effective presidential candidates, actually. they usually are better candidates, the ones that don't feel like it's the be-all, end-all of their life. >> yes, but you also have to have as he suggested, that passion. you h...