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His lawyer, cohen. michelle kaczynski of cnn reported on the plane he was talking to white house aides, he was in a terrible mood, he was spooked and distracted. that i think drove the decision. it's also true, i think, that they saw this be a pr disaster to be meeting with putin at the very time his relationships with russia are in question. he's much better off to keep his distance. >> particularly with this story of a $50 million penthouse offer. the visual of him -- >> just $50 million? >> max, you know, it's not just a meeting with putin. basically, a number of the president's meetings ha...

Joining me is david gergen and "the washington post" columnist and cnn analyst max boot, author of the new book "the corrosion of conservatism, why i left the right." do you buy the explanation about the ukrainian sailors? >> the ukraine cran sailors story has been out there for a few days and he decided he was going to go. it's clearly what happened on the plane after he heard about cohen. michelle kaczynski reported on the plane he was talking to white house aides, in a terrible mood, he was spooked and completely distracted. that i think drove the decision. it's also true i think that they ...