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His budget proposed more than $100 million cut to food stamps. if you are in the beans advocacy program you need food stamps at the end of it. paul ryan's proposal, you're earning less than the average wage in a rust belt state, you know people who are on food stamps. i don't know how you go out and win an election on that. >> the republicans are amazing. they are in denial of the number of children that go to bed every night hungry, 16 million kids in this country go to bed hungry, a number they don't address. they say we have to have a good economy to take care of them. you know what? not ev...

$100 billion cut to food stamps. if you are in the beans advocacy program you need food stamps at the end of it. paul ryan's proposal, you're earning less than the average wage in a rust belt state, you know people who are on food stamps. i don't know how you go out and win an election on that. >> the republicans are amazing. they are in denial of the number of children that go to bed every night hungry, 16 million kids in this country go to bed hungry, a number they don't address. they say we have to have a good economy to take care of them. you know what? not everybody in our economy will ma...

Michigan is going to come into play, pennsylvania. there's a lot of catholics in those states. i wonder how this is going to play out if this continues and he doesn't back away from his budget. he is trying to defend massive cuts to the poor, which is totally against catholic church teaching. is this going to be a campaign issue? >> well, tleb catholic vote they care about is the blue collar catholic vote in the rust belt. it's one thing to promise opportunity for everyone. paul ryan is right, the best way out of poverty is growth. unless you believe in some kind of utopia, there will always b...