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Hampshire and then the brace mov race moved to south carolina and she beat bernie and then the race moved on from there to the southern primary states. and she kind of put the ras away. this year, this cycle, excuse me, is going to california and texas just two or three days after south carolina votes. and much more demographically representative electorate than the first two states which is very white. so it could really shake things up. >> and do you think kamala harris' campaign, can it be he revived by a good showing in california in. >> it is a long way to go from iowa to california to wa...

Him a centrist. i mean, bernie is like tearing his very messy hair out of his head right now that someone on this desk called him a centrist. i would disagree that he's a centrist. a and. >> and gilli brbrand, that's a tough one. and on kamala harris, is she

>> and nothing is fair. >> it does speak to the fact that the party has moved left to some -- now, stand saanders is privately taking credit for that. they're saying things that he introduced, $15 minimum wage. >> it's not that bernie is a centrist, as you say. the party has moved towards bernie and views that seemed fringe and just sort of out of the dialogue, they've become just the conventional wisdom. but claire is absolutely right to scold me for that. >> oh, come on! >> at what point are we going to realize we have to take bernie seriously? we just can't discount him. >> the grievances a...