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Korea? >> well, craig, there are always more targets to sanction and the sanctions do beat calls for the total destruction of a country that we heard just a few days ago from the president. we need to make sure that that kind of rhetoric is moved to the side. but certainly as ambassador burns said, sanctions absent a true diplomatic approach where they can be used as leverage to get agreements at the table won't be worth much and we need to ensure that we're getting to the table and we have to also ask the key question, will the administration be willing to trade in sanctions for a diplomatic ...

You both for joining me tonight. really appreciate it. >> thanks, lawrence. coming up, paul ryan is one of the only republicans, maybe the only republican today defending donald trump, and his defense is donald trump's sheer utter total ignorance. every beat calls... to be heard... ♪ to move... with you... through you... ♪ beyond you. ♪ itme your glass of willpower that helps keep cravings... ...far, far away.

Nan inaugurated. they should not be subverting the policy of the us government. we took actions, the obama administration took actions in late december to punish russia for meddling in our elections. we kicked out intelligence offer certificates, removed two of their compounds. removed code data from their hakz. if the trump team was having these back channel communications with the russians saying, don't worry about this, we'll take care o all of it, your sanctions will be removed, that's a big problem. >> i'm very anxious to see what the facts are because there is intrigue and that spectrum ...

Compromise any potential investigation. i think it's extraordinarily unlikely that those words every came out of his mouth. >> it's one of the most ridiculous parts of this. because james comey, fbi director and former deputy attorney general knows that if you're investigating an organization, you're not going to rule out the head of the organization at the beginning of the inquiry. it's just not how these things work. so it's another basically hanging cloud. jim cavanaugh and joyce vance, thank you so much for joining me tonight. >> thanks, ari. coming up, another angle on the story. some b...

Committee's investigating the russia election hack. and tomorrow, what a big day on capitol hill it's going to be. it's going to be a explosive day of fire works and should anyone in washington be worried tonight about a grand jury investigation? allen dershowitz joins us. every beat calls... to be heard... ♪ to move... with you... through you... ♪ beyond you. ♪ the following ad for your viewing convenience. i finally switched to geico. oh yeah? ended up saving a ton of money on car insurance. i hear they have a really great mobile app. the interface is remarkably intuitive. that's so im...