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development of cars that run on electricity instead of gas. here's the thing. that loan to tesla that republicans made such fun of, that loan that turned out great in the end. that was made through a loan program created in 2007. signed into law by a previous president named george w. bush and even when it is working, it is a laugh line to them. mitt romney was good on the climate issue until he wants to run for higher office. republicans were all for invest ting in electric car until they decided to call it a joke. what are our chances of moving forward at a time when half our political world is moving backward on this issue even against our own ideas? he is a nuclear physicist who beat ibm's computer at jeopardy. thanks for being with us. >> rachel, it's always good to
to goose the american development of cars that run on electricity instead of gas. here's the thing. that loan to tesla that republicans made such fun of, that loan that turned out great in the end. that was made through a loan program created in 2007. signed into law by a previous president named george w. bush and even when it is working, it is a laugh line to them. mitt romney was good on the climate issue until he wants to run for higher office. republicans were all for invest ting in electric car until they decided to call it a joke. what are our chances of moving forward at a time when half our political world is moving backward on this issue even against our own ideas? he is a nuclear physicist who beat ibm's computer at jeopardy.
and even when it is working, it is a laugh line to them. mitt romney was good on the climate issue until he wants to run for higher office. republicans were all for invest ting in electric car until they decided to call it a joke. what are our chances of moving forward at a time when half our political world is moving backward on this issue even against our own ideas? he is a nuclear physicist who beat ibm's computer at jeopardy. thanks for being with us. >> rachel, it's always good to be with you. >> when the republicans are trying to criticize or hold back this sort of investment, what impact do you think it is on innovation and new technologies that could help on issues of energy and climate change? >> i don't know how many wildfires, hurricanes, barges
measure in leaps and bounds, unimaginable innovation in manufacturing in the united states of america? what has produced that in the last decade is you. specifically your money. hundreds of billions of dollars in taxpayer money, public investment. and the fact that it is all for fighting wars, of course, really changes the politics around it. are there lessons to be learned for building ourselves out of the economic disaster we're in from the way that we became a country that could build this guy? joining us now is a man who knows a thing or two about high-tech, the nuclear physicist who beat ibm's computer at jeopardy, congressman holt of new jersey. >> it's good to be with you. >> do you think there's a lesson to be learned from the leaps and bounds we have experienced in military tech over the last ten years fighting these two years that can be applied to revitalizing what we make and invent? >> it pays off big, not just in nifty devices, not just in better understanding of our
innovation. so this is not a hypothetical. what in the past decade has produced observably amazingly technological innovation you can measure in leaps and bounds, unimaginable innovation in manufacturing in the united states of america? what has produced that in the last decade is you. specifically your money. hundreds of billions of dollars in taxpayer money, public investment. and the fact that it is all for fighting wars, of course, really changes the politics around it. are there lessons to be learned for building ourselves out of the economic disaster we're in from the way that we became a country that could build this guy? joining us now is a man who knows a thing or two about high-tech, the nuclear physicist who beat ibm's computer at jeopardy, congressman holt of new jersey. >> it's good to be with you. >> do you think there's a lesson to be learned from the leaps and bounds we have experienced in military tech over the last ten years fighting these two years
technological innovation you can measure in leaps and bounds, unimaginable innovation in manufacturing in the united states of america? what has produced that in the last decade is you. specifically your money. hundreds of billions of dollars in taxpayer money, public investment. and the fact that it is all for fighting wars, of course, really changes the politics around it. are there lessons to be learned for building ourselves out of the economic disaster we're in from the way that we became a country that could build this guy? joining us now is a man who knows a thing or two about high-tech, the nuclear physicist who beat ibm's computer at jeopardy, congressman holt of new jersey. >> it's good to be with you. >> do you think there's a lesson to be learned from the leaps and bounds we have experienced in military tech over the last ten years fighting these two years that can be applied to revitalizing what we make and invent? >> it pays off big, not just in nifty devices, not just in
gone. you add howie kurtz, was he talking to the congress mank or not? i think in a lot of ways mark leibovitz got exactly the story he was looking for which is a kid, kurt is in his late 20s, a kid who rises very past a member of congress, who is on a fast rise, too, and then falls very fast. john knows that. that is a story played out time and time again here in washington. >> unless you're watching -- in case you're watching mark leibovitz, i really like you, by the way. i never told you before. anyway, thank you, harris. by the way, you're apparently saying bardella took too many shots beyond the three-point line. coming up, the united states congressman who beat ibm's watson super computer at jeopardy. finally a politician who knows more than you know maybe. new jersey democrat rush holtz coming on, he's the guy who did it. this is "hardball" only on msnbc.
>> chris, it is good to be with you. i'm not sure that ibm watson computer wasn't having a low voltage night. you know, it was all for fun. but with a real point. and the point to emphasize the importance of research and that's why ibm did this, to show that programming, complicated decision making and information retrieval can be done in a way that is good for medical diagnosis and transportation planning and yes, even playing games. and so i did it because for decades i've been trying to highlight the need for more investment in research and science education. that's what it was about. but it sure was fun. >> you also did a lot of reading out of school. i know the secret. here is an example where you beat watson in a category called presidential rhyme time. the clue was herbert's military strategies. you said what is hoover's maneuvers.
it's time to play quick gail of jeopardy. at the top of the show we gave you a clue. this democratic congressman from new jersey just beat wathson, the ibm super computer in an exhibition match of "jeopardy." the correct question, of course, who is rush holtz. he defeated watson, the machine, 8600 points to 6200 points. a remarkable triumph of man over machine. real john henry stuff here. and here he is to tell us about it. remember john henry the guy that beat the machine and then died back in mythical times? >> with the hammer in his hands. >> how did you do it? i hear the machine is faster than man, but not always right obviously. >> well, it's good to be with you. i'm not sure that ibm watson computer wasn't having a low voltage night, but it was all for fun. with a real point. and the point to emphasize the importance of research. and that's why ibm did this.
i think a lot of people i talked to after the new yorker story came out thought he might be gone. you add howie kurtz, was he talking to the congress mank or not? i think in a lot of ways mark leibovitz got exactly the story he was looking for which is a kid, kurt is in his late 20s, a kid who rises very past a member of congress, who is on a fast rise, too, and then falls very fast. john knows that. that is a story played out time and time again here in washington. >> unless you're watching -- in case you're watching mark leibovitz, i really like you, by the way. i never told you before. anyway, thank you, harris. by the way, you're apparently saying bardella took too many shots beyond the three-point line. coming up, the united states congressman who beat ibm's watson super computer at jeopardy. finally a politician who knows more than you know maybe.