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From this snapshot in time turns out to be how things end up a year from now. ryan nobles, cnn, washington. >> ryan, you're right. it's early. let's talk about it with scott lucas. lucas teaches international politics at the university of birmingham in england and the editor of ea world view. pleasure, scott. >> morning to you, george. >> let's talk about it. this new poll of voters in the important state of iowa. that state always a litmus test for candidates running. the poll shows biden beating sanders, even though he shouldn't officially running yet. what do you make of it? >> ryan nobles ...

He is drawing contrasts. his argument is that he is the rock. he has been consistent all these years and the shade he is throwing at hillary clinton is she has been back and forth or late and wrong on issues like the iraq war or gay rights. it's a campaign now. >> latest wall street journal poll clinton beating sanders among democrats, doubling his number. 62, 31. at what point does bernie sanders say i have forced her to talk about issues she would not have otherwised likely talked about? at what point does he say this is not my nomination to win? >> i don't think he is going to drop out. he ...

To me was unbelievable. i thought the world was going to go crashing on his head. >> didn't have impact. let me get a sense from you as we flip to the democrats. this new poll making headlines. bernie sanders neighboring state. hillary clinton beating sanders and most polls believe former secretary of state won this week's debate. did we witness the tide turn? >> i don't want to predict anything for the rest of the way because lord knows how many times we have been surprised. this is a case where for once the voters agree that hillary clinton won that debate. and this is a very big deal becaus...

Hampshire lead into another month, running now nine points ahead of clinton among democratic primary voters in a new poll out just today. while clinton is still ahead in iowa, beating sanders 47% to 36%. that margin shrinks significantly when you add joe biden to the mix. and clinton's support alone drops from 47% to just 33%. this weekend bernie sanders held a massive rally of about 20,000 people in boston. double the number who turned out to see barack obama himself at a similar event in 2007. >> what a huge crowd. and let me thank the many thousands of people who are outside, who are unable...

Popular with democrats. >> huge with the democrats. >> she's beating every republican head to head setups. >> she's not beating sanders. >> in a couple of days. but she's still 22 points ahead nationally. >> i got to ask you about the aid who set up the server who is pleading the fifth before congress. now there's a report out that some of the republicans in congress are prepared to offer him immunity or at least looking into it. people think where there's smoke there's fire. and to that what do you say? >> let's put facts first. you and i don't know if this young man wants immunity. his lawye...