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Me read from part of this statement not attributed to the president, but it is from the white house today. we will not allow a faction of the republicans in the house to hold the economy hostage to its extraneous and extreme political demands. i mean, you're a wordsmith. clearly, the president really thinks this is all about the tea party, and they are the problem here. >> well, and look, and, in fairness, it's the tea party guys who are driving a lot of this and who pushed the defund obamacare thing. one of the things if we're going to do wordsmithery, one of the things that drives me crazy i...

Perry, i want to start with you and based on what i was able to maybe get out of beau a little bit, more like the matix avoiding that conversation. he was able to help facilitate the fiscal cliff negotiations and joe biden is the only closer that the white house has right now as said by the national journal. as beau points out he hasn't been sworn in to the second administration, but how important is joe biden? >> he's become very important. we all mock him because he's occasionally has his foot in his mouth or says the wrong thing. on these deal, particularly with congress, he knows a lot of ...