About this, judge kavanaugh, amid the accusations around him, orrin hatch saying that miss blasey ford is mixed up. the president today, i agree with you, it's extraordinary to hear the president of the united states say that he, you know, feels for judge kavanaugh. well, of course he does because he can relate. right? >> yeah, yeah. or just the inability to hold the two thoughts in your mind that -- >> 100%. >> that there are two people in pain right now, there are two people -- arguably one is an alleged victim of sexual assault. >> right. what's remarkable about that to me is, listen, yes, ...