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i'll acknowledge that my right is further down that track. they're openly embracing or indifferent toward violence. but i worry that the left is growing in increasingly frustrated as well. this is a really scary moment for this country, and we all, as molly said, we all need to try to reject it. >> the language that trump is using, molly, we have heard it for years. and in doing so, in hearing it more and more, it almost becomes normalized. i think the ordinary american becomes almost -- they tonight. they become almost deaf to it. and he's now using this language of bedlam, there's gonna be big, big trouble. how does that land on the years about the trump supporters and those that are tuning it out and not paying attention to it? the consequence of that? >> what i'm the most worried about with the trump supporters as that he's sort of tipped his

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also hit by swatting at his home in maryland. now, while swatting is not necessarily a violent action, it is a form of intimidation. it is, in short, a threat. so, why are people doing it? why is there an uptick now? your guess is as good as mine. but, within the past week, donald trump has made several threats of his own suggesting olence could wrapped if the supreme court rules against him in his ballot eligibility dispe, or if his federal election interference case proceeds. he has warned of, quote, big, big trouble and bedlam in this country. it's ominous language. but the truth is, we kind of know that when donald trump speaks, his flock listens, and they act up if called upon. -- cautions in a new piece for the waington post, trump isn't explicitly demanding's supporters literally fight for him, these comments, quote, allow his supporters to

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The Saturday Show with Jonathan Capehart

they're like putin, they are murderous dictators, putin,, even the leader of north korea. they all could do whatever they want, and no one would ever prosecute them, because that's what authoritarianism is. it's a ranging government so that you can not only get away with crimes you committed in the past, but you will be able to do what you want in the future, and pay no consequences. that's his dream. >> but you -- know he also warned that there will, quote, be bedlam in the country if criminal cases denying him returning as president. what do you make of his word choice there? bedlam, is this the equivalent of, is this the 2024 equivalent of they will -- ? >> exactly, that's exactly what i was thinking, as you were forming that question, jonathan. hi-yah likes to play at these things, he is a master at communicating in ways that are obtuse. but you get the message. like some people are saying,

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howard: and yet the media goes crazy about this. >> absolutely. it's almost like the caucus is a poll where people show up and weigh in. it's a small vivid of -- sliver of the population of iowa that will have some sort of deciding element for the whole process of the nomination along the way, howie. howard: since you mentioned "the des moines register" poll, second place went to 234eubg key haley with to %. d can 20%. at your town hall donald trump really seemed to soften his e rhetoric when asked about political violent or being a dick around toy -- dictator. did that surprise you. >> it kind of did, howie, and when i look back on it,ty -- i think that's the most important takeaway. we pressed him on whether it would be bedlam, whether it would all be about grievance and retribution, all of these issues. and in each one of those cases, and in particular if i thought in his abortion answer which i know ben mentioned a little while ago on your program, it is

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georgia secretary of state in 2020. and no vowed he would again be able to do that withmpunity in the next midterm election in 2026, or perhaps even in 2028, when perhaps he'd be inclined to run for a third presidential term. we've already seen club -- trump pledge reputation, trying to go after biden and attorney general fani willis, to name a few. just this, week trump warned that there would be quote, bedlam, in the country if the charges against him resulted in him losing the election. with complete immunity, what there is there to prevent him from having more of a political pressure and bribery and violence if the court rules in favor of trump on the matter of immunity it would be giving him through very dangerous ingredients. he would prove embody cannot be prosecuted. it would mean that he will not, as his lawyer, john sour, said, look over his shoulder and second guess potential illegal activity, because he will have no fear prosecution, and he will feel vindicated in his

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>> do trump's lawyers really think that the courts will buy an argument that he can shoot someone on fifth avenue as president and just get away with it? howard: when the ex-president was speaking to reporters outside the d.c. courthouse, cnn and msnbc cut away. >> there'll be bedlam in the country, it's a very bad thing. it's a very bad precedent -- >> a few fact check es and reality statements on what you're hearing there. there is no evidence of voter fraud if. howard: donald trump still wants the media to carry his immunity argument including unsubstantiated alleges. >> -- allegations. >> a president of the united states has weaponized the department of justice as though we were a third world country or a banana republic, and if i don't get it, then joe biden doesn't get it. and his list of crimes is too long to talk about. howard: joining us now to analyze the coverage, ben domenech, editor at large at the spectator, and kevin corke, fox

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i felt like they were going at each other so much it made it almost unseemly to sort of sit there and feel, like, this is my choice? howard: nikki haley, how many times did she go to desantis lies tom? it was like watching two downing victims to see who was going to get the last gasp of air. by contrast, the town hall was a friendly forum because it was mostly trump supporters in the audience and asking a number of questions. but bret baier and martha that maccallum asked him about retribution, bedlam, seeming to root for a stock market crash this year. your take on the town hall. >> i actually thought one of the more interesting moments came from a question from the audience on the issue of abortion where you see, obviously, the former president having been successful in, you know, from the perspective of pro-life americans and husband supporters when it came to the roe v. wade issue, but ever since that the decision came down, he's really shied away

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political violence is never acceptable? >> well, of course that's right. and, of course, i'm the one that had very little of it. i think bedlam is joe biden. i think that he's using this. this is just a political ploy. trump is a dictator. and the press picks it up. so i said i'm going to be a dictator for one day. they cut it. they go, i'm going to be a dictator. but they cut the rest of the sentence. >> how much a second term of a donald trump presidency, second term, would be about retribution and looking backwards and grievances, and how much would be booking -- looking forward? >> we're going to make this country so successful again, i'm not going to have time for retribution. [cheers and applause] howard: the tone was far different on cnn as the other two candidates traded insults. >> when you need someone to stand and fight for you, don't look for nikki haley. you won't be able to find her if you had a search warrant. >> he's spent more time trying to lie about me than he is about telling the truth about himself. you've got $150 million, you've gone down in the polls in iowa.

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>> i think we need to look beyond the next four years and make a commitment you keep it in this country. that is what it means to have a president who actually has a spider. i could see myself putting my support behind desantis. got several five year old president preble win these battles for you. >> would be hard for him to convince me other than nikki haley progressive new a new genegenerational leader the sovereign focus on the path to correct some caucusing for president trump are going to think you look at joe biden as a bedlam. you have a vendor cannot lead too. >> they think we are a flyover state we want to get our voice heard we will get out. >> ibrexit selection eat and ioa in baby it is cold outside. caucus scaucus scores are such e dangerously cold temperatures so they can cast the very first in the 2024 election. who knows where we will be in the end but good afternoon everybody. good morning to those here in iowa or west of the mississippi. i am built here in des moines too. >> good morning it is good to be here. i'm dana and welcome to special

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Alex Witt Reports

take a listen, peter. >> i think if they feel this is the way they're gonna try to win, and it's not the way it goes, it will be bedlam in the country. it's a very bad thing, it's a very bad precedent as we said. it's the opening of a pandora's box. >> president biden has always been absolutely clear when it comes to this political violence has no place whatsoever in america. >> what signal is donald trump sending their, peter? what does law enforcement even do with that kind of messaging? >> it's wildly irresponsible for any candidate, let alone a former president of the united states running for the presidency again, make some sort of statement like this, which does encourage violence. i think he's doing it for two primary reasons. one is, it gets the base mobilized. it gets all those iowa caucus-er's out to caucus for him. it gets into fundraising, emails, this part of playing the victim and whining about how he's being oppressed by his opponent that appeals to potential donors. but at the end of the day what is concerning is that there are

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