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Political violence is never acceptable? >> well, of course that's right. and, of course, i'm the one that had very little of it. i think bedlam is joe biden. i think that he's using this. this is just a political ploy. trump is a dictator. and the press picks it up. so i said i'm going to be a dictator for one day. they cut it. they go, i'm going to be a dictator. but they cut the rest of the sentence. >> how much a second term of a donald trump presidency, second term, would be about retribution and looking backwards and grievances, and how much would be booking -- looking forward? >> we're g...

I felt like they were going at each other so much it made it almost unseemly to sort of sit there and feel, like, this is my choice? howard: nikki haley, how many times did she go to desantis lies tom? it was like watching two downing victims to see who was going to get the last gasp of air. by contrast, the town hall was a friendly forum because it was mostly trump supporters in the audience and asking a number of questions. but bret baier and martha that maccallum asked him about retribution, bedlam, seeming to root for a stock market crash this year. your take on the town hall. >> i actuall...

Take a listen, peter. >> i think if they feel this is the way they're gonna try to win, and it's not the way it goes, it will be bedlam in the country. it's a very bad thing, it's a very bad precedent as we said. it's the opening of a pandora's box. >> president biden has always been absolutely clear when it comes to this political violence has no place whatsoever in america. >> what signal is donald trump sending their, peter? what does law enforcement even do with that kind of messaging? >> it's wildly irresponsible for any candidate, let alone a former president of the united states running...

Howard: and yet the media goes crazy about this. >> absolutely. it's almost like the caucus is a poll where people show up and weigh in. it's a small vivid of -- sliver of the population of iowa that will have some sort of deciding element for the whole process of the nomination along the way, howie. howard: since you mentioned "the des moines register" poll, second place went to 234eubg key haley with to %. d can 20%. at your town hall donald trump really seemed to soften his e rhetoric when asked about political violent or being a dick around toy -- dictator. did that surprise you. >> it kin...

>> do trump's lawyers really think that the courts will buy an argument that he can shoot someone on fifth avenue as president and just get away with it? howard: when the ex-president was speaking to reporters outside the d.c. courthouse, cnn and msnbc cut away. >> there'll be bedlam in the country, it's a very bad thing. it's a very bad precedent -- >> a few fact check es and reality statements on what you're hearing there. there is no evidence of voter fraud if. howard: donald trump still wants the media to carry his immunity argument including unsubstantiated alleges. >> -- allegations. >> ...