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Trump Trial Today

jean carroll trial, as well, to discussions that have happened in the past. it might be of a legal matter. all under the category of a prior bad act. now the issue here though and defense counsel always has an issue with it is because you cannot use what's called propensity evidence, meaning i'm going to bring up all the bad things you've been accused of doing, hoping that the jury will see that and say, because this person has done bad before, then they must have done bad now, that is not fair. it is not adjust process. so the judge is going to try to keep out that which would make that same sort of similar intimation. having said that though, if you open matt pandora's box, there's always a concern for defense counsel and you open the door to be able to be impeached. they call it by these things, not the political impeachment, but your credit bloody attack in front of a criminal jury. that's impeachment in this context that you do run the risk of having undermining your entire defense. now, one interesting point i'll leave you with this woke is that they raised the

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Trump Trial Today

information they will raise things like the prior civil fraud trial, the e jean carroll trial, as well to discussion since that has happened in the past, it might be of a legal matter all under the category of a prior bad acts now be issue here though, why defense counsel always has an issue with it is because you cannot use what's called propensity evidence, meaning i'm going to bring up all the bad things you've been accused of doing hoping that the jury will see that and say, because this person has done bad before then they must have done bad now, that is not fair. it is not adjust process. so the judge is going to try to keep out that which would make that same sort of similar intimation having he said that though, if you open that pandora's box there is always a concern for defense counsel& you open the door to be able to be impeached. they call it by these things, not the political impedance judgment, but your credibility attack in front of a criminal jury. that's impeachment in this context, that you do run the risk of having undermining your entire defense now one

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MediaBuzz

convicted. but his attorney said quite the opposite in his last impeachment trial saying, well, this is the a political process, but he could certainly be pursued by law enforcement. so which is it? [laughter] >> well, that's a good question. [laughter] lawyers can find a way. there you go. listen, ultimately they're make a strong argument which is unless you really want -- and you heard jessie say it in your montage, unless you want to open up pandora's box, be super careful about what you can charge a former president is. it is to say be careful what you wish for as we've seen play out i think of the old harry reid, you know, 51 versus 60, be careful. decisions made today can have lasting impact, and i think the courts will probably consider that. howard: right. there is a legitimate debate about setting a precedent for future presidents. you know, the other, the civil fraud trial hearing in new york, trump did get to speak, and he insulted the judge to his face.

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Alex Witt Reports

take a listen, peter. >> i think if they feel this is the way they're gonna try to win, and it's not the way it goes, it will be bedlam in the country. it's a very bad thing, it's a very bad precedent as we said. it's the opening of a pandora's box. >> president biden has always been absolutely clear when it comes to this political violence has no place whatsoever in america. >> what signal is donald trump sending their, peter? what does law enforcement even do with that kind of messaging? >> it's wildly irresponsible for any candidate, let alone a former president of the united states running for the presidency again, make some sort of statement like this, which does encourage violence. i think he's doing it for two primary reasons. one is, it gets the base mobilized. it gets all those iowa caucus-er's out to caucus for him. it gets into fundraising, emails, this part of playing the victim and whining about how he's being oppressed by his opponent that appeals to potential donors. but at the end of the day what is concerning is that there are

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Alex Witt Reports

they'll make the decision based on law, and i think there's a strong argument that he has filed the insurrection clause, and that he should probably not be able to run. but as far as i'm concerned, i'm just gonna get out here and beat him again at the ballot box, and that's what i think we'll do across the country. >> all right, minnesota governor, tim walz. i can see why you're a top surrogate for the biden campaign, thank you so much for your time. >> well you've probably heard it this week and thought it was unusual, donald trump's comments about pandora's box. who is his audience? what does he mean? former fbi counterintelligence peter strzok joins me next. e next

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The Chris Wallace Show

report a crime and get police to raid the official's home or business. on thursday, police responded to a bomb threat at the home of the new york judge in donald trump's fraud trial. and check this out -- more than a dozen state legislatures across the country have received bomb threats already this year, norsing several to -- forcing several to shut down. trump issued a warning this week if courts rule against his claim of presidential immunity. >> i think they feel this is the way they're going to try and win, and it's not the way it goes. that will be bedlam in the country. a very bad thing. it's a very bad precedent. as we said, the opening of a pandora's box. >> kara, is swatting the terrible new normal for public officials in this country? >> it's been going on for a long time actually. it's often organize odds line. people find it entertaining -- on line. people find it entertaining to target people. it works because police

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Alex Witt Reports

presidents, former presidents from countries, if they have some level of malfeasance or corruption or whatever in a trial, they are found guilty, they are put in jail. we have seen that, and that's not from banana republics. other countries as well. certain countries. so let's take a listen to what trump said on tuesday about his prosecutions, and why he should a presidential immunity. >> are they feel this is the way they're doing to try and win, and that's not the way -- it will be bedlam in the country. it is a very bad thing, it is a very bad precedent, as we said, it is the opening of a pandora's box. >> how do you interpret that, olivia? >> well i think that's trump using -- these court proceedings for his own political advantage. he is kind of turning them into a trump rallies, i would say, because that is how he is reaching audiences. and he is saying it is political motivation, again, it goes on to this witch hunt narrative. but the reality is, this is the -- and it is catching up with him. and that is the truth about this. the issue is that there are a lot of right-wing networks that are not going to accept that

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The Chris Wallace Show

targets of swatting, where people call 911 to falsely report a crime and get police to raid the official's home or business. on thursday, police responded to a bomb threat at the home of the new york judge in donald trump's fraud trial. and check this out, more than a dozen state legislatures across the country have received bomb threats already this year, forcing several to shut down. trump issued a warning this week with courts rule against presidential immunity. >> i think they feel this is the way they're going to try and win. that's not the way it goes. that will be bedlam in the country. it's a very bad thing. it's a very bad precedent, as we said. it's the opening of a pandora's box. >> kara, is swatting the terrible new normal >> it's been going on for a long time. it's often organized on line. people find it entertaining to

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Alex Wagner Tonight

u.s. military has a responsibility and a right to protect shipping and the red sea. there is a commonly understood right to freedom of navigation and right of ships to proceed without harassment. the idea iota military harassment against who's ships harassing those container ships and other officials in the red sea, including u.s. military vessels, that's one thing. to go after the houthi command and control infrastructure and the houthi bases in yemen, that's a different thing. that's what the administration head restraint from doing at this point. the reason why is, once you do that, you potentially open pandora's box. they are connected to a network of groups that could take action against united states that in iraq that could escalate the war across the region, in yemen, that could ultimately lead to a regional war with the draws in iran. the states in this are

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Alex Wagner Tonight

to go after the houthi command and control infrastructure and the houthi bases in yemen, that's a different thing. that's what the administration head restraint from doing at this point. the reason why is, once you do that, you potentially open pandora's box. they are connected to a network of groups that could take action against united states that in iraq that could escalate the war across the region, in yemen, that could ultimately lead to a regional war with the draws in iran. the states in this are enormous. the the worst may be looking at why does this matter much. it's because of the skate out of control, if it's pearls, this could lead to a truly regional war. and that's what we want to avoid. >> i remember, shortly after october 7th, wondering. and i think i asked john kirby, at the time, what prevents this from becoming an actual war between that u.s. and iran? not that i'm some sort of cassandra. but that was -- the iranian shadow and all of this has been constant. and i wonder, against that backdrop of south africa calling israel to the international court of justice for claims of genocide, that degree to which the u.s. is

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