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Today, about the fact she thinks it's one of the strengths of our constitutional system, people who cannot afford to have a defense will have one provided to them, including detainees at guantanamo bay, and how it speaks to our judicial system, seeing it and arguing as a strength. now, senator graham agreed with her. said yes, i agree with you people deserve representation, that is one of the bedrock foundations of our constitution system, but he is not only an attorney, he was an attorney in the military so he is very familiar with the proceedings on many different levels. he got into the hea...

Joe biden having the older democrats? >> well, right now joe biden has the two bedrock foundations of the democratic party, older voters and african-american voters. if he can hold that he'll be the nominee. he has the people you want to have who we definitely know are going to vote. what we saw in 2018 is youth surging turnout. right now, if there's a big youth surge turnout it would be bad for biden because he's getting a small number of young voters. the interesting part is going to be can he and kamala and elizabeth stop splitting all these votes. if they're going to stay in the race, all ...

Higher. >> it's so pernicious -- i heard willie talking this morning, this is as he said a classic authoritarian move. we've seen it for serchg ris f. it's one of the first things you do when you're weak and losing power and things are spinning out of control, you try to attack the bedrock foundations of things that are meant to constrain you. the press is meant to constrain the presidency. the president lashes out. the thing about this report yesterday from nbc news is that it's connected to the moron story. right? that's the -- the other piece of that story, and i can't help but think that p...