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Support. >> no question about who will come out with all of the votes. it will be a sitting president. >> the white house is projecting confidence. >> the president is drad for any candidate that would decide to go and run against him. >> hogan keeps an eye on trump's numbers. >> i think the latest approval is in the 30s. you can't win the national election being in the 30s. >> his eyes remain wide open about the odds and the possibility. >> i wouldn't be on some fool's errand. i would only run if i thought i could actually win. >> i also spoke with mark's long time aid and speech writer. he t...

Way and winning big. >> thank you so much. our experts are here. you're supposed to meet with hogan next week about 2020. you accessed that. cnn kind of traded. >> you think he can do it? you think he can beat trump? >> you mentioned 32% right now in the latest poll and say republicans are most likely to vote. that's a pretty not bad to start with. >> i think go nor hogan, it's his second term as governor. he is not worried about, you know, future reference at the state level or whatever.

>> and you're thinking about it. >> i would say i'm listening. >> i would say how much thinking but i haven't closed the door. >> from the beginning hogan has made no secret to the opposition of the president. >> my thoughts are very clear. i believe it was the first to say i wouldn't support trump. >> i stand up and certainly let people know when i ds agree or think somebody is going on that i don't think is right. you know, i'm glad. >> opposing a sitting president in his own party is something hogan shares in common with his beloved late father. >> it isn't easy for me to align myself again...