support. >> no question about who will come out with all of the votes. it will be a sitting president. >> the white house is projecting confidence. >> the president is drad for any candidate that would decide to go and run against him. >> hogan keeps an eye on trump's numbers. >> i think the latest approval is in the 30s. you can't win the national election being in the 30s. >> his eyes remain wide open about the odds and the possibility. >> i wouldn't be on some fool's errand. i would only run if i thought i could actually win. >> i also spoke with mark's long time aid and speech writer. he told me he sees someone like him representing a new way forward representing a new way forward. it is running in a high turnout