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because it is being challenged and we have to accept that and respond to this challenge, which i hope we will be doing in this debate. despite the hysterical reactions of the country can i think it's important to state that this is a properly constituted senior committee of the house as indeed the leader of the house did so in her remarks. it was asked to do a difficult but vitaljob and it discharged its duties with integrity and honour will stop it is our duty now, i believe, before this house to ensure that we support the members of that committee and we support the conclusions tha...

Led you to this point? many people have been questioning over the past few months the statements and the actions taken by the attorney general in terms of really upholding the power that he thinks lies in the executive office. >> well, we're conservatives. we believe in the constitution, we believe in the institutions of the country, and we see those being subverted. most of us, i think, have probably voted republican in every election we've ever voted in. it's important from the conservative side to speak to the values that we think are what makes america great, not again, but always has made...

>> there's one other big difference, and you alluded to it at the end of your point, jeffrey, which is the complaint of republicans has been that democrats are sore losers and they wanted to reverse the verdict of the last election by relitigating the last election. this is really about trying to preserve the next election and keep it from being subverted. so that makes it a more current issue. >> yeah. >> after mueller, nobody is going to say, oh, donald trump, he would never do that. he would never do that. >> good point. >> gloria, thank you. jeffrey toobin, david axelrod, appreciate it. ...

>> colluding to try to win -- to try to win the election and then lying about it. >> right. >> what is this story? this story is about the president of the united states and a foreign power who by the way is very -- very -- mo is in a hostile replace with vladimir putin, putting pressure on him to try to collude to win the 2020 election. so. >> right. >> there is a lot of overlap. but you are right this is easier to understand. >> because mueller never happened. >> right. >> there -- there is one other big difference. and you alluded to it at the end of your point, jefferiy, which is the compl...

Interpretation as well. this is probably actually against our interests as a publisher. but we believe that people have the right to know true information about what the government is doing. the freedom of informationut act is being subverted. we published sarah palin's emails. why? because she when she was governor of alaska, she maintained an account that was being used intentionally or not to evade the lasting free information act. >> sean: during the 2016 election, i will ask julian assange about that next. all of that, and more. be right back.